Kilts in Difficult Places

topic posted Fri, May 28, 2004 - 12:04 PM by  Andrew
I've owned three utilikilts for a couple of years now, but today was the first day I've worn them to the staid and somewhat overly-formal school where I teach history. Several students looked at me askance, several came over to ask what I was wearing, and several faculty members made jokes about underwear and so on. The Headmaster said they'd have to add a line to next year's dress code revision, allowing kilts.

Part of me had been dreading this day for years, going into work and getting disapproved or denied in some way. It wound up going very well, and people were very accepting for the most part. A few more times and it will seem quite normal.

Have others on the tribe list experienced similar nervousness, and similar acceptance in their workplace or other very formal environments?
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Andrew
Connecticut
  • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

    Wed, June 23, 2004 - 9:11 AM
    I personally haven't too much, I don't care what others think, but my dad has.

    My dad works at UCDavis CA and a few years back he work his kilt on National Tartan Day (either the first or the second Tartan Day), which also happened to coincide with the university's "Diversity Week". He had a talk and wore his kilt the first half of the day at the talk. After the talk, back at the office, his boss asked him to change, saying it wasn't in the dress code. Well, they normally wear jeans and tshirts in the office. There were some articles in the local paper, and one in the Washington Post. The only thing that came of it was they asked my dad to write new dress code policy, he got tons of emails supporting him, and Sean Connery called him, because I guess through email chains people heard about it all over.

  • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

    Wed, June 23, 2004 - 11:10 AM
    Yay workplace acceptance!

    At the art college where I work I've often taught in my kilts. Everyone seems okay with it. Then again, it is art college, which everyone knows isn't a real school.

    ;-)
  • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

    Wed, June 23, 2004 - 4:36 PM
    Hey all,
    Yeah I've had the same feelings. I work at Warner Bros in Burbank CA, in a "creative" position. I'm heavily tattooed and have never hidden it. I wear tee shirts and shorts as well as flip flops to work but I still haven't had the nerve to deal with the reactions of wearing one of my kilts.
    I find that I really don't care WHAT people say but I don't want to listen to their narrow minded comments. I would guess that after the second or third times the idiots would shut up but I'm just not ready for it...
    • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

      Wed, June 23, 2004 - 5:38 PM
      my stepdad worked at Warners before he retired, and he didn't seem to have a problem with my bfs wearing kilts. Maybe it's different for you since you're in the 'creative' sector, but why should they have a problem with that down there, cultural dress should be something that's more accepted in the southern part of the state.
      • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

        Wed, June 23, 2004 - 5:45 PM
        Well if I were Scot and wearing a Tartin that would be different but since they know I'm not it would just be a "dress" to many of the idiots here..
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          Mon, October 3, 2005 - 11:18 AM
          First off if somebody doesn't know the difference between a dress and a skirt, well they obviously don't have any fashion sense at all, and probably don't pay any attention to the women in their life.

          We were talking about this very thing this weekend at the Grass Valley UK booth. My feeling is, if your company allows women to wear skirts to work, then it would be discrimination for them to not allow you to wear a kilt that conforms to the office's standards. IE; in a corporate office envirnoment an Origninal or Mocker is plenty 'dressy' enought for that environment.

          Didn't women have to go through this very thing back in the 1960's to be able to wear pants to the office? Get the women in your office on your side!

          BTW, I took the mentioned tactic of just showing up to work in my then only kilt, a black workman. There were no problems or issues with it.


          DC
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    Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

    Sun, November 14, 2004 - 9:06 AM
    You were actually told they were going to revise the dress code so you COULD wear your kilt?? Damn. I'm jealous.
    I work for a transportation management company here in Portland, Oregon, and last year when I asked my mgr about wearing my kilt, she had seen me in it a a co-worker's wedding, she told me to ask HR about it.
    Well when they finally contacted me back I was asked: Is it a cultural thing? my answer was..not really..then I was asked: is it a religious thing, to which my answer was no.
    I was then told that "at this time they are going to have so say no you can't wear it, but ask again next year".
    Why should I bother next year when you told me this year. I did however notice that there is still no stipulation in our dress code about NOT wearing kilts.
    Though now I suppose I COULD tell them it's a cultural thing as I have been told my paternal grandfather's family came from a line of blacksmiths in northern Scotland.
    • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

      Sun, November 14, 2004 - 11:15 AM
      See now, when I started wearing mine at work, I just did it, the first coupla times I had a pair of pants in the car in case they 'needed' me to change. But no one ever said anything, other than a little friendly ribbing.

      Next time, remember it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission.

      daMongolian
      • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

        Tue, June 10, 2008 - 1:22 PM
        "Next time, remember it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission."
        Never ask permission and never ask for forgiveness for wearing what you fucking want!
        Just do it, anybody bitches screw it! I have no patience for HR fashion Nazis!!
        They would be the ones wearing mirrors on their shoes to snag a gander!!! ;-)
  • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

    Wed, June 15, 2005 - 5:38 PM
    I showed up to work last week wearing a kilt. The guys I work with didn't bat an eye, being game developers they're pretty hip. However the rest of the people that work in the same building we do are all military types as we are housed in a federal building. I actually expected more of a response than I got from them; a few odd glances here and there but that's about it.
    • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

      Wed, January 16, 2008 - 7:08 PM
      I travel for my work, and also my hobby, and right now I am working a project in a refinery near Long Beach, CA. The only way I could wear my kilts would be to drive to another neighborhood. This area is HEAVILY hispanic, and I'm not talking upscale. I would get my kilt-clad ass handed to me if I went out there. The only good thing about this project is that I will work 4 months, and make enough money to take the rest of the year off, and go up near SF, where I can wear what I want, and do renaissance faires for the rest of the year.
      • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

        Tue, June 10, 2008 - 1:25 PM
        The last thing some 'macho' Hispanic would want is to have his ass splattered on the pavement by a guy in a 'skirt'.
        I was living in Eaglerock, CA and Pasadena last year and wore my Kilt everyday.
        I got a little shit from a few assholes, but all it took was the evil eye and potential
        assaulters faded into the bleakness!
  • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

    Wed, January 16, 2008 - 8:12 PM
    I was a little nervous about my clients ( I'm a Psychology Resident) having difficulty with my kilts - but they've seemed to relish them. I overheard a client on his cell phone after a session say, "Dude - My new shrink wears a kilt, he's much better than my old therapist!" No problems with my boss or my clinical supervisor about me wearing my kilt s at all.
  • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

    Fri, January 18, 2008 - 4:16 AM
    I haven't thought about wearing my UK to work - but now that I "own" the place, and the word from the "owners" above is "use your best judgment", I may just have to on a casual day, to test the waters.

    First I gotta get the pink out of it (it was washed with the wrong things), in time for tomorrow's highland festival...

    Way to get them *included* in the dress code!
  • Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

    Thu, June 12, 2008 - 11:06 PM
    I work a call center for Anthem Health Care. I figured I'd ask my boss first, since he's a pretty easy going guy anyway, if I could wear my kilt on Friday, since it's kind of Casual Friday anyway. He said, since my company was so concentrated on diversity, he didn't see any reason I couldn't wear it every day if I wanted to. I mostly just wear it on Fridays, but I have gotten a few others in my office that have kilts too to start wearing them in the summer. I get the good natured gruff from my close coworkers, all in jest, and the rare double take from some of the older ladies when they pass, but mostly most people don't react, or don't care.

    >: )
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      Re: Kilts in Difficult Places

      Sat, June 14, 2008 - 2:32 AM
      There's "difficult " as in how much flack are you going to get and "difficult " as in risk to life and limb. *smile*
      My husband wore his Utilikilt for haying last season. I was a little worried about chaff and bugs getting attached to his sweaty limbs but everything was fine. It was wonderful to watch him jogging ahead of the truck to grab a bale and throw it on the trailer before moving on to the next one.

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